Comments on: KunstlerCast #7: Fate of Flagstaff & Hydrogen Cars - Transcript http://kunstlercast.com/transcripts/2008/04/14/kunstlercast-transcript-7-fate-of-flagstaff-hydrogen-cars/ The tragic comedy of suburban sprawl Fri, 05 Dec 2008 07:37:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Duncan Crary http://kunstlercast.com/transcripts/2008/04/14/kunstlercast-transcript-7-fate-of-flagstaff-hydrogen-cars/#comment-164 Duncan Crary Sun, 29 Jun 2008 02:31:03 +0000 http://kunstlercast.com/transcripts/2008/04/14/kunstlercast-transcript-7-fate-of-flagstaff-hydrogen-cars/#comment-164 <font color="#CC6600"><font size="3"><strong>To comment on this transcript and/or show topic, visit <a href="http://kunstlercast.com/forum/index.php?topic=12.0" rel="nofollow"><font color="#CC6600">the KunstlerCast Forum</a></p></strong></font></font><br><br> To comment on this transcript and/or show topic, visit the KunstlerCast Forum

]]> By: Bob Williams http://kunstlercast.com/transcripts/2008/04/14/kunstlercast-transcript-7-fate-of-flagstaff-hydrogen-cars/#comment-93 Bob Williams Mon, 05 May 2008 16:23:50 +0000 http://kunstlercast.com/transcripts/2008/04/14/kunstlercast-transcript-7-fate-of-flagstaff-hydrogen-cars/#comment-93 Duncan, As the organizing member of the Rochester New Urbanism and Sustainable Development meetup (http://newurbanism.meetup.com/121/) and sole writer of the Moderate Urban Champion Blog (linked in my name), I am with you 100% on the desire to simply not have to own a car. I too live in New York, in Webster a Rochester suburb. Our townhouse/condo is currently for sale as we attempt to move downtown. We sold our 2nd car a few weeks ago and haven't missed it at all as I purchased a monthly bus pass and use it to get to work (at just $2.57 per day so far, a number that keeps dropping the more I use it). The issue is as Jim says, its not a punishment to live in a dense walkable community. Torontonians get this and I get this, but it will be a large struggle, sadly driven by economic factors as Jim suggests, to create meaningful urban infill and shake the Compulsory Motoring Program. -Bob P.S. I have presentation materials up in the 'files' section of the meetup. Feel free to use them in organizing a Troy New Urbanist group if you don't already have one. Duncan,

As the organizing member of the Rochester New Urbanism and Sustainable Development meetup (http://newurbanism.meetup.com/121/) and sole writer of the Moderate Urban Champion Blog (linked in my name), I am with you 100% on the desire to simply not have to own a car.

I too live in New York, in Webster a Rochester suburb. Our townhouse/condo is currently for sale as we attempt to move downtown. We sold our 2nd car a few weeks ago and haven’t missed it at all as I purchased a monthly bus pass and use it to get to work (at just $2.57 per day so far, a number that keeps dropping the more I use it).

The issue is as Jim says, its not a punishment to live in a dense walkable community. Torontonians get this and I get this, but it will be a large struggle, sadly driven by economic factors as Jim suggests, to create meaningful urban infill and shake the Compulsory Motoring Program.

-Bob

P.S. I have presentation materials up in the ‘files’ section of the meetup. Feel free to use them in organizing a Troy New Urbanist group if you don’t already have one.

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